While theBatmanandPlanet of the Apesdon’t exactly have many common threads, besides being iconic film franchises, they now share a director inMatt Reeves. The filmmaker took the helm of the 2014 blockbusterDawn of the Planet of the Apesand the upcomingWar for the Planet of the Apes, in theaters July 14. WithThe Batmanfilming set to commence at some point next year, the filmmaker teased that his two franchise may have more in common than you’d think.

Los Angeles Daily Newscaught up withMatt Reeves, who revealed that both theBatman franchiseand thePlanet of the Apesfranchise were very close to him as a kid, and now he’s directly involved in both of them. The director also spoke about how Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) and the ape leader Caesar (Andy Serkis) are more similar characters than you may imagine. Here’s what he had to say below.

“It’s a strange thing to be involved in the two franchises which were the two that I was connected to most as a child. I just was obsessed withBatmanwhen I was a kid. What I find so interesting about him as a character is that, as far a superhero goes, he’s not superhuman, he is a person. And he is a tortured soul who is grappling with his past and trying to find a way to be in a world that has a lot that’s wrong with it and trying to find a way to reconcile all of that. That is a really powerful character, in the same way that Caesar is such a powerful character.”

Earlier this month a report surfaced that claimed4 Batman movieswere being planned for release in 2019, all of which will feature the Caped Crusader. While this plan has yet to be confirmed by Warner Bros. or DC, the rumor claims thatGotham City Sirensis coming around Valentine’s Day weekend, withNightwingdebuting over Memorial Day weekend,Batgirlarriving in August andThe Batmanin November. That release plan has yet to be confirmed, but it certainly does seem feasible.

Aside from Ben Affleck reprising his Bruce Wayne/Batman role fromBatman v Superman: Dawn of JusticeandSuicide Squad, the cast also includes Joe Manganiello asDeathstroke, although no one else has been confirmed yet. Matt Reeves is directing from a script that was recently rewritten by Chris Terrio. Hopefully we’ll have much more onThe Batmansoon, including confirmation of this four-movie Batman plan.